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We’re the humans in the loop.

In machine learning, “human in the loop” means a human who provides oversight and feedback in an automated system. That’s the lens of this show: AI is powerful, but humans aren’t leaving the loop. Not yet. Maybe not ever.

This isn’t another “AI is going to change everything” podcast. It’s for builders, operators, and the AI-curious who are tired of breathless hype, doomerism, and surface-level news recaps with no original thought.

What’s in each episode

Every week: one fixed, one rotating.

FIXED

Signal or Noise

We run through the week's AI headlines and make the call: is this actual signal worth paying attention to, or just noise clogging the timeline?

ROTATING

Ship It or Skip It

A real use case or product idea lands on the table. We debate whether it's worth building now or if the tech isn't there yet.

ROTATING

Explain It to My Client

Take a complex AI concept and explain it the way you'd actually explain it to a non-technical stakeholder. No jargon allowed.

ROTATING

Stack Check

One tool, library, or workflow change we actually adopted this week. No sponsorship energy. Just what's in the trenches.

Hosts
Oscar Gallo

Oscar Gallo

AI Engineer & Entrepreneur

AI Engineer and entrepreneur. He lives in the intersection of engineering and businesses.

Matt Wozniak

Matt Wozniak

Serial Builder & Relentless Executor

Serial Builder and relentless executor. He comes from the lens of what works and what doesn't.

EP 10Jun 16, 2026 · 66 minStack Check

Anthropic shipped the most powerful AI ever released to the public on June 9. By June 12 the US government made them pull it back from every foreign national on earth, including Anthropic's own engineers. The most capable model on the planet had a 72-hour public life. We unpack who actually won that week, because it was not the people who got the model.

Welcome to Human In the Loop, a weekly podcast where two builders cut through the AI hype cycle. No breathless hype. No doomerism. No surface-level recaps.

Signal or Noise

The week’s AI headlines, filtered.

  1. SIGNALAnthropic releases Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5 at half the old frontier price, then calls for a global AI pause five days earlier. We read the contradiction.

  2. SIGNALThe Trump administration places Fable 5 and Mythos 5 under export controls after a company jailbreaks Mythos. Anthropic disables access for all customers worldwide to comply, then disputes the order.

  3. NOISEOpenAI files confidentially for its IPO at a reported $730 to $850 billion, one week after Anthropic filed at $965 billion. Two unprofitable labs, public markets, same week.

  4. SIGNALOpenAI wires its models and Codex into Oracle Universal Credits, deleting the procurement step for every Oracle enterprise customer.

Stack Check

AI agents in production: the three layers you actually need to run an agent unattended.

Claude Agent SDK

The agent loop you do not have to write.

LangGraph plus LangSmith

Orchestration you can audit.

Temporal

Durable execution so a crash is not a restart.

Hot takes

Two opinions, no disclaimers.

Oscar

“The Mythos ban is the best thing that ever happened to open weights. If the Commerce Department can switch off your stack on a Friday, you are renting, not building.”

Matt

“Everyone watched the model and missed the money. OpenAI spent the week removing every reason a CFO can say no.”

Sources referenced
    EP 09Jun 9, 2026 · 99 minNo Jargon Required

    The White House just signed an order that lets the federal government test the most powerful AI models up to 30 days before you can touch them. The labs said yes. Real national security, or the backdoor frontier labs were begging for? We make the call.

    Signal or Noise

    The week’s AI headlines, filtered.

    1. SIGNALTrump's frontier-model executive order, a voluntary 30-day government early-access window, with the NSA deciding which models qualify

    2. SIGNALGitHub Copilot flips to token billing on June 1, and developers report bills jumping 10x to 50x

    3. SIGNALMicrosoft's MAI-Code-1-Flash and Google's $100 dev tier crash the AI coding party Anthropic has owned

    4. SIGNALChatGPT crosses 1 billion monthly users, and why the real story is Claude growing 640%

    5. SIGNALAnthropic calls for a global pause on frontier AI, and the 80% of its own code now written by Claude

    No Jargon Required

    the three words on every AI invoice, explained for anyone who signs off on the bill.

    Tokens, and why your AI bill went usage-based

    Inference vs training, and what "inference-efficient" actually buys you

    Evals and benchmarks, and why the leaderboard is lying to you

    Hot takes

    Two opinions, no disclaimers.

    Oscar

    “The executive order is not about safety. It is a distribution deal with a 30-day government waiting room on every frontier release.”

    Matt

    “The Copilot billing meltdown is the best thing to happen to engineering leaders this year. The meter was always running. Now you can see it.”

    EP 08Jun 2, 2026 · 123 minShip It or Skip It

    Six weeks ago Anthropic said a model was too dangerous to ship. This week they shipped Opus 4.8, called it near-Mythos, and said Mythos-class models reach every customer in the coming weeks. Was it ever that dangerous? We make the call.

    Signal or Noise

    The week’s AI headlines, filtered.

    1. SIGNALClaude Opus 4.8, near-Mythos alignment, 3x cheaper fast mode, and Dynamic Workflows that fan one model across up to 1,000 subagents

    2. SIGNALAnthropic passes OpenAI, a new round values it near $1 trillion, plus a projected first operating profit on $10.9B revenue

    3. SIGNALCognition raises $1B at $26B, Devin's autonomous coding agent hits a ~$492M run rate

    4. SIGNALA poisoned Nx Console VS Code extension stole Claude Code configs and helped clone 3,800 of GitHub's internal repos

    5. SIGNALPope Leo XIV's first encyclical takes on AI, signal for regulated buyers, noise for your standup

    Ship It or Skip It

    three real ideas from this month's builder discourse.

    The Company Brain

    My First Million Ep 822

    Voice AI agent for the trades

    Avoca's $125M raise

    Stripe for AI agents

    Circle Agent Stack

    Hot takes

    Two opinions, no disclaimers.

    Oscar

    “Too dangerous to ship" was never a safety call. It was a 90-day enterprise head start.”

    Matt

    “Devin at $26B is the top, not the floor. An agent lab with no distribution is the WeWork of 2026.”

    EP 07May 26, 2026 · 98 minStack Check

    Cursor just shipped a coding model that matches Claude Opus 4.7 at one tenth the price, built on an open Chinese base model. The same week, Anthropic is closing a $30B round at a $900B valuation. If frontier coding got commoditized in seven days, what is anyone paying premium for?

    Welcome to Human In the Loop, a weekly podcast where two builders cut through the AI hype cycle. No breathless hype. No doomerism. No surface-level recaps. Honest, opinionated conversations from people actually building with AI.

    Signal or Noise

    The week’s AI headlines, filtered.

    1. SIGNALCursor Composer 2.5, top-three coding agent at one tenth the cost of Opus

    2. SIGNALAndrej Karpathy joins Anthropic's pre-training team

    3. SIGNALAnthropic in talks for a $30B round at a $900B valuation

    4. SIGNALGoogle I/O 2026, Gemini Spark agent and Antigravity 2.0

    5. SIGNALHark's $700M Series A for a "secret" AI device, why we are calling it noise for now

    Stack Check

    three AI dev tools we actually adopted in the last 30 days. What each one replaces, why it matters, and would we actually keep using it.

    Matt Pocock's `skills` repo, Skill Handoff

    a real replacement for `/compact`

    Convex (convex.dev), TypeScript-native backend built for agentic workflows

    Google Antigravity 2.0 + CLI + Managed Agents API

    Hot takes

    Two opinions, no disclaimers.

    Oscar

    “Cursor Composer 2.5 just proved the open base model thesis. Coding-as-a-service is about to fall off a cliff in price.”

    Matt

    “Karpathy joining Anthropic is worth more than the $900B valuation as a signal. Talent is the only moat the market still underprices.”

    EP 06May 19, 2026 · 92 minNo Jargon Required

    Three months ago on Episode 1, we asked if there was a real business in selling AI to small businesses. This week, Anthropic shipped it themselves. So we just watched the founder playbook get eaten by a frontier lab in 90 days. If you were six weeks into building that company, what do you do Monday?

    Signal or Noise

    The week’s AI headlines, filtered.

    1. SIGNALAnthropic ships Claude for Small Business

      15 agentic workflows, QuickBooks + HubSpot + Microsoft 365 connectors, 10-city US tour.

    2. SIGNALThinking Machines previews “Interaction Models”

      276B MoE, 0.4s full-duplex response, Mira Murati throws shade at every other lab's voice stack.

    3. SIGNALSierra raises $950M at $15B+ valuation

      $150M ARR, 40% of the Fortune 50 paying for customer agents.

    4. SIGNALTrump administration reverses on AI oversight

      Driven by national-security fears around Anthropic's Mythos model.

    5. SIGNALCloudflare cuts 1,100 jobs and blames AI

      On the same morning it posts record revenue — the first big “AI did it” layoff that isn't a cover for bad numbers.

    No Jargon Required

    Three AI concepts every exec and operator keeps hearing this quarter, in plain English.

    AI Agent

    The word every vendor abuses — and how to tell the real ones from the chatbots in costume.

    Connectors and MCP

    What “AI plugged into your tools” actually requires.

    Full-Duplex Voice (Interaction Models)

    What to ask when a vendor pitches a voice agent.

    Hot takes

    Two opinions, no disclaimers.

    Oscar

    “Anthropic just turned every AI consultant into a reseller. By Q3, the model providers own the workflow layer for every regulated and semi-regulated vertical.”

    Matt

    “Every vendor calling their thing an ‘AI agent’ in 2026 is going to look like every vendor that called their thing ‘cloud-native’ in 2015. By Q4 the term means nothing.”

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